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All Glories to Srila Prabhupada & Gauranga.

Hare Krishna!

My Dear Friends, I have come across a book called "Gita Govinda."
A friend of mine, with whom I speak with about Lord Krishna alot shared it with me. He said that the book belongs to the Nimbarka Sampradaya.
I have read a little about the 4 Sampradayas, but I know Our Sampradaya is the Brahma Sampradaya.

And I have heard of stories of Srila Prabhupada telling His devotees NOT to go to other Guru's for instruction. So my question is, may I read this book? I do not want to upset Srila Prabhupada in any way, but I am interested in reading about the glories of Sri Krishna.

Please forgive me if I have offended anyone in asking this question.

Hari Bol!

Your Servant,
David

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Hare Krishna..

is this the same Gita govinda by Jayadeva which is in the form of poetry and the one that was liked a lot by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu??
Hare Krishna, if that is the Gita Govinda you are referring to (Jayadeva one)
then
some views:
1. "Unlike other, so-called gurus and siddha-purusas of his time, Sarasvati Thakura did not allow his disciples to discuss the details of Krsna's amorous love with the gopis, although Sarasvati Thakura did indeed have many highly qualified disciples. He was particularly disturbed if he heard of any disciples discussing Rasa-lila."

2. "Sarasvati Thakura also did not allow his disciples to read such books as Gita-govinda, Ujjvala-nilamani or Govinda-lilamrta."

Bhaktisiddhanta did not allow his disciples to read Gita-govinda nor did his bona-fide disciples recommend Gita-govinda to be read by their disciples.

The fashion of pseudo-Vaisnavas has always been to acquire information about Krsna's lila and then to make a show of such knowledge to attract the innocent or ignorant devotees and public.

Bhaktisiddhanta, however, was quite a different person - he placed full importance on surrender and the serving disposition - first deserve, then desire. He was also not in favor of trying to be something or someone in Krsna consciousness that you are not. In other words first one must purify one's heart from all material tendencies by chanting the Holy Name of Krsna before one is qualified to hear higher topics in Krsna's lila. When a neophyte devotee delves in the higher lilas of Krsna without being properly qualified he makes offences and is in due course cast down. Bhaktisiddhanta therefore wanted his disciples to make real advancement in Krsna consciousness and he guided them accordingly.

To read Gita-govinda without proper qualification is an offence and to distribute it to the innocent or ignorant public in the name of preaching is also an offence.

I will provide here some quotes on this topic from acaryas and renowned Vaisnavas so you may better arrive at the proper conclusion on this matter.

"Our master did not allow us to read the books where the higher lilas are described: Govinda-lilamrtam, Stava-kusumanjali, Ujjvala-nilamani, and Gita-govinda. He did not allow us to study and to discuss them. Rather, he would be very much disturbed if he heard that someone was interfering with the higher lilas in those books. He did not like it.

"There are three chapters of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta that we were generally not allowed to discuss fully, including the conversations with Ramananda Raya. Where the lila portion of Radha-Govinda is mentioned, we were not to delve. Of course when parayana (consecutive chanting of the whole book) was taking place, we were to go on reading those sections, but without giving any particular attention to the lila of the highest order of raga. That was barred: "Don't try to come into details there. That will come automatically when it is time. Do not make it a public discussion. Do not place it in the public eye."

"Dusta phala karibe arjjana-Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura warns that we will get only a bad result if we venture to cross that line. It is aparadha. From the lower position, the steps are shown: sraddha, sadhu-sanga, sravana, kirtana, then anartha-nivrtti, when the undesirable things vanish. Then comes ruci, then asakti, then bhava-bhakti, the sprout of real devotion. Then prema-bhakti, and sneha, mana, pranaya, raga, anuraga, bhava, mahabhava-by such steps we are to approach the highest plane." (Srila B. R. Sridhara Deva Goswami, Follow the Angels, Ch-2)

"Gita-govinda is a special poetry book, full of transcendental mellows of devotional service, and it describes the exalted pastimes of the Supreme Brahman. There is no other such book in the world. Since the ordinary readers cannot realize the conjugal mellows of the Supreme Lord and since they are fond of material enjoyment, their study of Sri Gita-govinda is not perfect. The poet Jayadeva Gosvami has not offered his book to such readers; rather he forbade them to study this book. For persons who are inexperienced in the transcendental mellows of Vraja, discussing Jayadeva Gosvami and his work is proof of their shamelessness." (Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Sajjana-tosani 7/2)

"With the dissolution of mundane desire, an intense urge arises to serve the senses of Madana-mohana, the transcendental Cupid who enchants the mundane Cupid with His beauty. It is only at this point in one's spiritual development that one will be able to properly engage in the practices of raganuga bhakti such as hearing, chanting and meditating on the asta-kaliya lilas. As long as material desires are present in the heart, it is very possible that a concerted effort to enter into erotic subject matter such as those described in Jayadeva's Gita-govinda will have inauspicious results." (Srila B.P. Puri Maharaja, Art of Sadhana, Chapter 1)

"It is premature to think that as soon as one has taken shelter of his spiritual master he has the right to relish books like the Bhagavata's Rasa-pancadhyaya, Gopi-gita, Uddhava-samvada, or Govinda-lilamrta and Krsna-bhavanamrta, the songs of Candidasa and Vidyapati, Jagannatha-vallabha-nataka, Krsna-karnamrta, Gita-govinda, and other books of this type. The inevitable consequence of such precocious entry into the subjects of Krishna's conjugal pastimes is that one falls into illicit sexual activity." (Srila B.P. Puri Maharaja, Art of Sadhana)

"The Gita-govinda, the loving affairs of Radha and Krsna, it is not for the neophyte student... If you are actually advancing in devotional service, then the symptom will be that you'll have no more material hankerings." That is real. So if you actually hear about Krsna's pastimes with Radharani, then hrd-roga-kaman apahinoti, then our heart disease, lusty desires, will vanish. That is the result. I have repeatedly said. So if you become more lusty by seeing the pastimes of Krsna with Radharani or hearing, that means you are not fit. Stop it. Stop it. Don't be foolish."(A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Lecture on Caitanya-caritamrta Adi-lila 1, 6, Mayapura, March 30th 1975)

Actually, you will not find anywhere any quotes from our acaryas or renowned Vaisnavas recommending that one who is unqualified should hear about the advanced lilas of Krsna. All our acaryas recommend that first one has to become free from anarthas, free from material contamination. Only the Sahajiyas and publishers of Gita-govinda have the audacity and foolishness to cross the instructions of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta.

It is indeed a ruse when the publishers of Gita-govinda say that if the followers of Bhaktisiddhanta do not translate and comment upon Ujjvala-nilamani, Gita-govinda, etc. that these books will then be the exclusive property of the Sahajiyas. To the contrary, in doing so, the publishers of Gita-govinda have entered the domain of the Sahajiyas and shown us their true colors.

At a time when pseudo-Vaisnavas gave faulty instructions in the name of the teachings of Sri Caitanya, Bhaktisiddhanta rose above the crowd and by his preaching, and his personal example, he gave real life to Gaudiya Vaisnavism. His instructions are thus for all time, all places, and all circumstances - because he directly represents the desire and teachings of Sri Caitanya. Bhaktisiddhanta gave real life to Gaudiya Vaisnavism and to reject his instruction means to suffer a spiritual death no matter how much one thinks he knows about Krsna.

conclusion: do not read it unless you have full control over your senses.

Hari Bol

please correct me if something i wrote was wrong.. :)
:(

Hare Krishna!
I put the sad-face because I had a feeling I wasn't qualified to read this type of material.
My Dandavat-Pranams to You for saving me from committing an offense!
Yes ! That one!
I did not know that Lord Caitanya liked this work!

But it has some commentary from Lee Siegal and Sudipita Kaviraj.
Gita Govinda by Jayadev Goswami is very similar to reading 10th canto of Bhagavatam, very intimate details of Krishna's pass times. Please, someone correct me if I am wrong.
To say, not to read Gita Govinda is like saying not to read KRSNA book. If you have a proper purport, by Acharya like Srila Prabhupada, on Gita Govinda, it is perfectly fine to read it.
Unfortunately, I could not locate any guru/Acharya that has translated and purported Gita Govinda.
If someone knows otherwise, please reply
Until then, we all will have to wait.

Haribol
jaideva goswami appeared long before chaitanya mahaprabhu.


Shri Jayadeva Goswami made his appearance at Kendubilvagram within the district of Birhum, during the 11th century. According to Vanamali dasa, the author of "Jayadeva-carita" and a disciple of Shrinivasa Acarya, Jayadeva was alive in the 15th century. It would therefore seem that Vanamali dasa was not aware of the contemporary historical events during Jayadeva's lifetime. It is recorded in the Gita-govinda that Jayadeva was a court pandita during the reign of Raja Laksmana Sena of Gauda. Evidently, Jayadeva was of a much earlier period. Jayadeva is famous as the great poet of Gita-govinda.
His father's name was Bhojadeva and his mothers name was Bama devi.
At an early age Jayadeva embraced vairagya and migrated to Purusottama ksetra (Jagannatha Puri) after visiting many holy places. He lived there by offering seva to Purusottama. Lord Jagannatha was pleased by Jayadeva's bhakti-bhava. The ruler of Orissa was also extremely fond of him. Jayadeva gave diksa to some of his disciples there.
A certain brahmana, who had no issue, worshiped Lord Jagannatha and was blessed with a daughter. After the daughter, who was named Padmavati, grew up, the brahmana took her to Purusottama and offered her to the Lord. The brahmana then received a command from the Lord: "One of my sevakas named Jayadeva has renounced home and has dedicated himself to My service. Go and offer your daughter to him."
The brahmana went to Jayadeva's place along with Padmavati and after explaining the command of Lord Purusottama, requested Jayadeva to accept Padmavati as his wife. Although Jayadeva refused to marry her, the brahmana left Padmavati with Jayadeva and returned home. Jayadeva was very embarrassed and asked Padmavati, "Where do you wish to go? Come with me and I shall take you there, because you cannot stay here." With a pathetic voice the girl answered, "At the command of Lord Jagannatha my father has offered me to you. You are my husband, my life. Even if you forsake me, I shall not leave you but serve at your feet to the best of my ability." Jayadeva had no other alternative but to marry Padmavati and become a householder again. He then installed a Deity of Narayana in the house.
Padmavati was devoted to the Deity of Lord Jagannatha. Jayadeva also developed deep love for the Lord and he became inspired by the beauty of Puri and Lord Jagannatha. While floating on the waves of Krishna-prema he composed the book of verses entitled Gita-govinda. While Jayadeva was writing this book he had described various rasas and bhavas within his writings, yet it still lacked the touch of khandita-madhura-rasa.
While writing about the pastimes of Radharani as She repented after Krishna had gone away, Jayadeva became lost in thought. He did not have the courage to depict Lord Krishna, the Jagatpati, Parama purusa, touching the feet of Radhika, the prakrti. Not being able to decide whether or not he should write that particular verse regarding Krishna becoming the servant of his devotee, he decided to first take his bath and return to his writing later.
While Jayadeva was taking his bath, Jagannatha Himself personally appeared in the form of Jayadeva and took his meal. Padmavati was surprised to see who she thought was Jayadeva returning so quickly from taking his bath "What is the matter?" she inquired. "You just left a few minutes ago, so why have you returned so soon?" Lord Jagannatha in the guise of Jayadeva said, "While on my way to the sea, a thought occurred to me, I didn't want to forget it so I came back to note it down." Jagannatha in the form of Jayadeva then went to Jayadeva's room and with His very own hand wrote down the verse "Dehipadapallavamudaram" in Jayadeva's manuscript book, the same verse which Jayadeva had been considering whether to write or not.
Soon after Lord Jagannatha had disappeared, the actual Jayadeva returned from his bath while his wife was taking her meal. Jayadeva was astonished to see his wife taking her meal before him, which is generally not done by women in Vedic culture. Padmavati also was shocked to see Jayadeva return again so quickly, and in her confusion she said, "You went for your bath and soon came back to write something down in your book and left again just a few minutes ago. How could you finish your bath within such a short time and return home? I would like to know who was that person who came here to write something down in your book and who are you actually?" She then explained that he had already taken his bath once, taken his meal and then gone to his room.
Jayadeva, understanding the significance of the incident narrated by Padmavati, at once went to his room, opened his manuscript book and saw the verse that he had been considering whether to write or not, now composed in golden letters. The divine writing revealed the presence of His Lord Krishna. He felt such ecstasy of love that tears rolled down over his chest. He then called his wife and said, "You are the most fortunate person because you have attained the goal of your birth. You had the darsana of Lord Krishna, and I am such a fallen soul that I have been deprived of the darsana of His manifested Self."
Gita-govinda quickly became the joy of the Vaishnava community. Shri Gita-Govinda is full of intimate pastimes of Shri Shri Radha-Govinda and is therefore meant for those who have acquired sufficient spiritual piety, and the Gita-govinda itself states,
"For those who relish the remembrance of the pastimes of Shri Hari and are always anxious to hear those transcendental divine narrations, these verses, sweet as honey, have been composed by Jayadeva with the blessings of Mother Saraswati."
The fame of Gita-govinda spread far and wide. Bhaktas and Bhavukuas alike all became overjoyed to hear the song recitals from Gita-govinda. At the time, Gajapati Purusottamadeva was the provincial king. He was openly envious of Jayadeva and soon posed an ill-fated challenge.
The king considered himself a master poet, on a par with Jayadeva, and composed a work called Abhinava Gita-Govinda. One day, he summoned his advisors and asked them to widely circulate his work, in an attempt to make it more popular than Jayadeva's. The king's own men, however, ridiculed his attempt, telling him that it was impossible to compare a lamp to the sun. Still, the king was relentless.
A controversy soon arose, and the brahmanas (the king's priests) decided that the matter would be settled by placing both manuscripts before the Deity of Lord Jagannatha for the night. By morning, they said, the Lord Himself would decide. When the devotees went to greet the Deity the next day, they found Jayadeva's Gita-Govinda clasped against the Deity's chest, and the king's manuscript scattered about the floor. The decision was clear.
There are a few stories in connection with Jayadeva's Gita-govinda. As Krishna in the form of Lord Chaitanya used to relish hearing Shri Gita-Govinda, so also the same Krishna as Jagannatha relished this song of Jayadeva. One day a woman gardener was singing verses from "Gita-govinda" while seated in her garden, when Lord Jagannatha, charmed by the music, arrived there to listen to it. As a result the Lord's body was covered with dirt and thorns. When Utkalaraja went into the temple he noticed the marks of dirt etc. on the Deity of Lord Jagannatha and immediately called for an explanation from the attendants. The Lord explained the episode of His going to the garden to hear the music of the malini. The Raja at once sent his men to bring the malini before him. The Raja then listened to the musical verses of "Gita-govinda" rendered by her. The descendants of this malini recite verses from Gita-govinda regularly in the temple of Lord Jagannatha in Puri even today.
Another pastime is related in Shri Chaitanya Caritamrita as follows: "One day when the Lord was going to the temple of Yamesvara, a female singer began to sing in the Jagannatha temple. She sang a gujjari tune in a very sweet voice, and because the subject was Jayadeva Gosvami's Gita-govinda, the song attracted the attention of the entire world. Hearing the song from a distance, Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu immediately became ecstatic. He did not know whether it was a man or a woman singing. As the Lord ran in ecstasy to meet the singer, thorny hedges pricked His body. Govinda ran very quickly behind the Lord, who did not feel any pain from the pricking of the thorns. Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was running very rapidly, and the girl was only a short distance away. Just then Govinda caught the Lord in his arms and cried, "It is a woman singing!"
As soon as He heard the word "woman," the Lord became externally conscious and turned back. "My dear Govinda," He said, "you have saved my life. If I had touched the body of a woman, I would certainly have died."
"I shall never be able to repay my debt to You," Govinda replied, "Lord Jagannatha has saved You. I am insignificant."
During the time that he became engaged as the chief pandita of Raja Laksman Sena, Jayadeva Goswami resided at Navadvipa on the banks of the Ganga. Also present were three other panditas whose names he has mentioned in Shri Gita-Govinda. Shri Umapatidhar, Acarya Shri Govardhan and Kavi Ksamapati, who were his close friends. At that time, Laksmana Sena, aware of Jayadeva's position as a great Vaishnava, went to see Jayadeva to request him to become his minister, to become the royal pandita for the whole kingdom. However, when the king arrived with his ministers in full regalia, Jayadeva became very angry, as he was a brahmana and his residence was being intruded by a king. Jayadeva began to rebuke the king. "I'm leaving Navadvipa, I refuse to reside here any longer. Because kings are always involved in so much worldly activity, my residence has now become polluted. Therefore, I'm leaving. I'm very offended." Then Laksmana Sena, paid his obeisances to Jayadeva and pleaded, "Please don't leave my kingdom. I meant no offense. It's true, this royal order is such a despicable occupation. We have to be involved in so many undesirable activities to protect the country, but if you leave our kingdom then it will be a great loss. You've given your word, I know you can't break it, so please just take your residence across the Ganga." At that time Jayadeva was living just near the place where the Mayapur Chandradaya Mandir is now located. This is proof that the original Navadvipa was on the Chandradaya Mandir side, because the king told Jayadeva to take his residence across the river. "At least then you'll still be in our kingdom. Otherwise, if we lose the association of such a great Vaishnava this will be very inauspicious for everyone. We want the blessings of the Vaishnavas, and only for this reason have I come to you, to request you to use your knowledge for the upliftment of the entire kingdom." So Jayadeva, seeing that after criticising the king he did not become puffed up but instead took a humble position, realised that he was a devotee and not just a materialistic king who wanted to exploit him for his own name and fame. So then Jayadeva said, "Allright, I'll live across the river. You can also come and visit me, but don't come as a king, come in ordinary dress like a Vaishnava brahmana. You can come and see me in secret and we can discuss Krishna-katha."
Lokasvana Sena, devotee-king, built a hut made of leaves at Campahati for Jayadeva. Lord Krishna appeared there to Jayadeva and his wife. Changing the colour to that of the golden campa tree which grew in the area, He revealed His form of Lord Chaitanya. He told them He would soon appear in Navadvipa to perform congregational chanting before taking sannyasa and going to Puri, where He would relish Jayadeva's Gita-govinda. Lord Chaitanya asked them also to go to Puri.
Radha-madhava always took great care of His Jayadeva. It is recorded in Bhaktamala that once Jayadeva was repairing the roof of his cottage during a hot summer afternoon. Lord Hari took pity upon him and to minimized the sufferings of His devotee Jayadeva, The Lord Himself began to drill holes in the covering sheets and pass them to Jayadeva, who was happily thinking that it was his wife Padmavati helping him. However, when he came down after finishing the job he did not find anyone there. Jayadeva realized that he must have been helped by his ever merciful Lord Hari and thus he offered humble prayers to the Lord with renewed devotion. On another occasion Radha-madhava, in the guise of Jayadeva, partook of rice bhoga prepared by Padmavati.
Once Jayadeva set out for raising funds for seva and utsava of Radha-madhava from different states. Some dacoits waylaid him and, after looting all his belongings, cut off his limbs and threw Jayadeva's body in a well. A certain Raja, during his sikara rounds (when a king tours in disguise to see what is happening in his kingdom), happened to pass that way, when he heard someone chanting the name of Lord Krishna from inside a well. The Raja then rescued Jayadeva and took him in his own palanquin to the palace. At the advice of Jayadeva, the Raja introduced daily Vaishnava-seva at his palace. One day, the gang of dacoits that had robbed Jayadeva, arrived at the palace disguised as Vaishnavas. Jayadeva recognised them, yet made special arrangements to look after their comfort. Fearing that Jayadeva would take revenge on them and have them killed, the dacoits attempted to escape without success because the royal guards would not allow them to leave the palace without the permission of Jayadeva. However, Jayadeva, having read their minds, made arrangements to pay them sufficient money and had them escorted to a safe place. After traveling some distance, the dacoits took leave of the royal guards saying, "We were employed by a certain Raja to kill Jayadeva. We had cut off his limbs and threw him in a well. He has now come to your palace and become a fraud mahanta. To avoid being detected, Jayadeva paid us money to get rid of us. The dacoits had hardly finished their statement when all of them dropped flat on the ground as if hit by some unseen force. On their return to the palace, the guards narrated the episode before the Raja. Jayadeva then explained the factual incident involving the dacoits and added, "One should be kind even towards evil souls. That is why I showed respect to the dacoits by offering money instead of doing harm to them." The Maharani and Padmavati had developed a close friendly relationship through constant association.
One day the Rani, while discussing the subject of shamarana with Padmavati, began to lament thinking of her own-self. Padmavati explained that after the death of a husband, the wife becomes lifeless. The Rani remembered this remark and in order to test the truthfulness of Padmavati, the Rani one day arranged to circulate a false rumor that Jayadeva was dead. Padmavati, true wife that she was, passed away as soon as she heard the news of her husband's death. Later, Jayadeva brought Padmavati back to life by chanting the holy name in her ear. At that point Jayadeva felt a desire to visit Vrndavana. Taking his Deity Radha-madhava with him he went to Vrndavana and stayed at Kesighata for sometime. A certain wealthy devotee, charmed by Radha-madhava, constructed a temple at Kesighata, where the Deity of Radha-madhava was installed. After Jayadeva passed away, the Maharaja of Jaipur took Radha-madhava away with him and had it re-installed at a place called Ghati in Jaipur.His disappearance is on Pausa Sankranti. Shri Shri Radha-Madhava, are being worshipped in the former temple of Radha-Govinda just outside the present city of Jaipur.
During the last stage of his life, Jayadeva returned to his home at Kenduli village and lived there till the end. It is said that Jayadeva used to go for a bath in the Ganges daily about 36 miles away from Kenduli. One day he was unable to go and felt disturbed about it. However, to alleviate the distress of her devotee, Gangadevi, came roaring in a stream up to Kenduli village. Jayadeva breathed his last at Kenduli village and in his memory a mela is held every year. More than fifty thousand devotees attend this mela yearly.
Jayadeva's Gita-govinda is considered an invaluable asset by one and all. The book has been translated into Hindi, Bengali, Odiya, Assamese and also in many other foreign languages. The following persons have written commentaries on Gita-govinda: Udayanacarya, Kamalakara, Kumbhakarna Mahendra, Krishnadatta, Krishnadasa, Gopala, Chaitanyadasa, Narayana Bhatta, Narayanadasa, Pitamvara, Bhagavad dasa, Bhavacarya, Mananka, Ramatarana, Ramadatta, Rupadeva Pandita, Laksmana Bhatta, Laksmana
Suri, Vanamali Bhatta, Viththala Diksita, Visvesvara Bhatta, Sankara Misra, Shriharsa,
Hridayavarana and others. Besides this, two books of tika entitled Valavodini and Vacanamalika by some unknown authors are also available on Gita-govinda. Jayadeva Goswami also composed a book named Candraloka. His disappearance is on Pausa Sakranti.

The following verses and songs from Shri Jayadeva Goswami's Gita-govinda will give you some insight as to why his contemporaries dubbed him "The incarnation of melody," and why Lord Chaitanya used to relish this beautiful poem so much.

1.11
visvesam anuranjanena janayann anandam indivara-
sreni-syamala-komalair upanayann angair anangotsavam
svacchandam vraja-sundaribhir abhitah pratyangam alingitah
srngarah sakhi murtiman iva madhau mudho harih kridati

"My dear friends, just see how Shri Krishna is enjoying the season of spring! With the gopis embracing each of His limbs, He is like amorous love personified. With His transcendental pastimes, He enlivens all the gopis, and the entire creation. With His soft bluish-black arms and legs, which resemble blue lotus flowers, He has created a festival for Cupid.
(Quoted from Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi Lila Chapter 4 Text 224)

2.3
rase harim iha vihita-vilasam
smarati mano mama krta parihasam

Here in the arena of the rasa dance, I remember Krishna, who is always fond of joking and performing pastimes.
(Quoted from Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Antya Lila Chapter 15 Text 84)

3.1
kamsarir api samsara-
vasana-baddha-srnkhalam
radham adhaya hrdaye
tatyaja vraja-sundarih

"Lord Krishna, the enemy of Kamsa, left aside the other gopis during the rasa dance and took Shrimati Radharani to His heart, for she is the helper of the Lord in realizing the essence of His desires."
(Quoted from Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi Lila Chapter 4 Text 219)
@ David pr..

Dandavat Pranaam

Hari bol.. :)

hari om

u can read this book with a purport by srilla narayana goswami.

download it from totol bhakti.com

not only sampradaya accept sri krsna as supreme. only gaudiya sampradaya accepts him as swayam bhagvan.
just reading bhagvad gita and bhagvata is not enough for those who want to reach bhava bhakti and prema bhakti.
simply following vaidhi bhakti will lead us to vaikuntha ,not to vrindavan.we have to come to the level of raganuga sadhna in this life or other.for those wanting to get liberated and want to serve sri krsna in awe and reverence vaidhi bhakti is last limit.

but the mood of rupanuga gaudiya vaishnavas is different.

Dear Prabhu:

It is good that you are considering whether or not to read material from other Vaishnava lineages. The answer is no, that reading devotional materials produced by people outside of ISKCON is strictly forbidden by Srila Prabhupada. His Divine Grace explicitly instructed His disciples [including us] to show polite obeisances to other Vaishnavas but not to associate with them too closely whether in person or by means of their literature.


If you would like to read more about the glories of Lord Krishna, Srila Prabhupada Himself has written more than enough books to satisfy our longing for Lord Krishna's adi-lila. The KRSNA Book is a phenomenal book on Lord Hari's transcendental pastimes. The link for the book is as follows: (http://vedabase.com/en/kb)

With this link, you can read about the extensive pastimes of His Lordship in-depth and without having to leave Srila Prabhupada's spiritual lineage. PLEASE AVOID ASSOCIATION WITH NON-ISKCON DEVOTEES! Show them respect and politeness but NO MORE than that. Think about how Prabhupada would have reacted, seeing one of his disciples reading a Gaudiya Math book...Haribol and Blessings!

-Bhakta Sekou

Hare Krishna,

Our master did not allow us to read the books where the higher lilas are described: Govinda-lilamrtam, Stava-kusumanjali, Ujjvala-nilamani, and Gita-govinda. He did not allow us to study and to discuss them. Rather, he would be very much disturbed if he heard that someone was interfering with the higher lilas in those books. He did not like it.
"There are three chapters of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta that we were generally not allowed to discuss fully, including the conversations with Ramananda Raya. Where the lila portion of Radha-Govinda is mentioned, we were not to delve. Of course when parayana (consecutive chanting of the whole book) was taking place, we were to go on reading those sections, but without giving any particular attention to the lila of the highest order of raga. That was barred: "Don't try to come into details there. That will come automatically when it is time. Do not make it a public discussion. Do not place it in the public eye."
"Dusta phala karibe arjjana-Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura warns that we will get only a bad result if we venture to cross that line. It is aparadha. From the lower position, the steps are shown: sraddha, sadhu-sanga, sravana, kirtana, then anartha-nivrtti, when the undesirable things vanish. Then comes ruci, then asakti, then bhava-bhakti, the sprout of real devotion. Then prema-bhakti, and sneha, mana, pranaya, raga, anuraga, bhava, mahabhava-by such steps we are to approach the highest plane." (Srila B. R. Sridhara Deva Goswami, Follow the Angels, Ch-2)
"Gita-govinda is a special poetry book, full of transcendental mellows of devotional service, and it describes the exalted pastimes of the Supreme Brahman. There is no other such book in the world. Since the ordinary readers cannot realize the conjugal mellows of the Supreme Lord and since they are fond of material enjoyment, their study of Sri Gita-govinda is not perfect. The poet Jayadeva Gosvami has not offered his book to such readers; rather he forbade them to study this book. For persons who are inexperienced in the transcendental mellows of Vraja, discussing Jayadeva Gosvami and his work is proof of their shamelessness." (Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Sajjana-tosani 7/2)
"With the dissolution of mundane desire, an intense urge arises to serve the senses of Madana-mohana, the transcendental Cupid who enchants the mundane Cupid with His beauty. It is only at this point in one's spiritual development that one will be able to properly engage in the practices of raganuga bhakti such as hearing, chanting and meditating on the asta-kaliya lilas. As long as material desires are present in the heart, it is very possible that a concerted effort to enter into erotic subject matter such as those described in Jayadeva's Gita-govinda will have inauspicious results." (Srila B.P. Puri Maharaja, Art of Sadhana, Chapter 1)
"It is premature to think that as soon as one has taken shelter of his spiritual master he has the right to relish books like the Bhagavata's Rasa-pancadhyaya, Gopi-gita, Uddhava-samvada, or Govinda-lilamrta and Krsna-bhavanamrta, the songs of Candidasa and Vidyapati, Jagannatha-vallabha-nataka, Krsna-karnamrta, Gita-govinda, and other books of this type. The inevitable consequence of such precocious entry into the subjects of Krishna's conjugal pastimes is that one falls into illicit sexual activity." (Srila B.P. Puri Maharaja, Art of Sadhana)
"The Gita-govinda, the loving affairs of Radha and Krsna, it is not for the neophyte student... If you are actually advancing in devotional service, then the symptom will be that you'll have no more material hankerings." That is real. So if you actually hear about Krsna's pastimes with Radharani, then hrd-roga-kaman apahinoti, then our heart disease, lusty desires, will vanish. That is the result. I have repeatedly said. So if you become more lusty by seeing the pastimes of Krsna with Radharani or hearing, that means you are not fit. Stop it. Stop it. Don't be foolish."(A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Lecture on Caitanya-caritamrta Adi-lila 1, 6, Mayapura, March 30th 1975)

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